Episode 9

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6th Sep 2023

Behind the Bob - through times of change

In this episode of Behind the Bob, Diary of a Comms Director, Carrie-Ann Wade shares her thoughts and reflections on what you might want to consider during times of change and uncertainty.

01:31 - your role as a leader in your organisation

05:00 - intuition and empathy

05:33 - your role with your communications team

08:55 - impacts on you as an individual

10:11 - your support network

In challenging times, comms directors take on numerous roles, often providing support, advice and counsel to other leaders. In this episode, Carrie-Ann encourages you to ensure you have a strong support network in place to help you when you need it. Change impacts you too!

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Carrie-Ann Wade: Welcome to Behind the Bob Diary of a Comms

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Director with me, Carrie-Ann Wade.

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This podcast is all about developing communications leaders of the

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future and supporting you to grow and thrive in your comms career.

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You'll hear from me about my experiences and insights, and there might even

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be a special guest or two popping up.

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So I hope you enjoy.

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Welcome to the latest episode of Behind the Bob, Diary of a Comms Director, with,

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yes, you've guessed it, me, Carrie-Ann.

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This is one of those solo episodes, so there's no guest with me today.

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I won't be having a deep and meaningful conversation with another

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amazing communications professional.

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But I will be sharing briefly some of my thoughts and reflections on a

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topic that I think is really important for us working in communications.

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And that topic this week is around change and uncertainty.

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As you will know, we live in uncertain times, and managing change and uncertainty

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is probably one of the only things we can be most certain about in our

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roles as communications directors.

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Whether that's a change in direction or strategy for the organisation we work

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for, or possibly a change in leadership, it can actually take many guises, but

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I'm sure will have similar impacts.

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As a Communications Director, it feels to me like there are a number

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of different roles we need to take when we're leading through change.

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And the first area I wanted to reflect on is what your role as a leader

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in your organisation means for you as a Director of Communications.

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While you are there to represent your function and provide sound, expert

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communications advice, you're also part of that leadership team in your

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organisation, and that can sometimes move you beyond your remit as comms lead.

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If you've listened to the previous episode I've recorded about communications leaders

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making great leaders in general, I think some of that comes into its own here.

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When your organisation is undergoing change, your board

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will look to you to support them in answering some key questions.

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Questions like, what's the likely impact of this change on our key

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internal and external stakeholders, and how do you think this will land?

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What can we do to alleviate some of the concerns and anxieties that may be

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raised through this period of change?

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And how do we bring people on the journey with us to implement the desired outcomes

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from the change that we're proposing?

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Now these questions will of course have different answers based

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on your organisation and the change that is being discussed.

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From a communications point of view we would probably all advise similar

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things and we would ask the board to consider similar questions to help

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us to develop our comms approach.

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And, of course, there will be the usual communications outputs that will be

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discussed in these conversations, such as the provision of frequently asked

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questions, briefings, face to face meetings, the list I know goes on.

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I think we all know as communications leaders how we would support and advise,

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because we are, of course, the experts.

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The bit that I think is useful for us to remind ourselves of in this

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situation is to operate beyond comms.

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We are part of the senior leadership team and as well as holding up the

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mirror to our peers in this space and helping the board to seek clarity on

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those questions, we also have a duty to role model positive leadership

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behaviours and to constructively offer some challenge into this space.

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As a leader, we might need to consider the impacts of the uncertainty and

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change on the other leaders in the organization and try to understand

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how this might play out in terms of their behaviors and contributions in

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the leadership team and discussions.

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There may well be anxieties playing out as people question values

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alignment to a potential new direction of travel, or perhaps worry about

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the impacts of a new boss on their portfolio and their deliverables.

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It might be something that's just bubbling there underneath the surface,

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or it might be playing out really loudly in conversations and discussions.

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This is a crucial time for you to consider your role as a leader alongside

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being the expert strategic communicator as you may need to facilitate and

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advise on a sensible way forward.

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I've often found myself at times of significant change being the person in

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the leadership room that asks what might be perceived to be the stupid questions.

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Not because I think they are stupid, but because sometimes it takes the

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communications leader in the room to take on that role of trying to tease

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out how people are feeling, how things are landing, and if everyone is in the

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right space to be able to take forward the proposed changes in a way that

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will be supportive and engaging for those people in the wider organisation.

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The good communication leaders that I've had the privilege to work with

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have had great intuition and empathy and have the ability to diplomatically

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feedback into their leadership teams their observations of how change

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is being perceived and managed.

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I often feel like it's my role to articulate and share what could be

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perceived as the elephant in the room and suggest that we try to address it.

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Otherwise a leadership team trying to provide assurance through an unsettling

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time will face an even bigger challenge.

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The next area I wanted to briefly explore is your role of course as a Communications

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Director with your own team.

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Those same anxieties and concerns may well be playing out for your team

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members when things feel uncertain or the organisation is undergoing change.

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When your whole team has a role in communicating that change to the wider

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organisation, and perhaps even to external stakeholders, it's even more important to

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be curious and understand their needs in order to be able to do this effectively.

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Ask your team the following questions.

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How are you feeling about the changes?

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What do you need from me to support you at this time?

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And what do you need from the organisation in terms of support?

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We can have these conversations as a wider comms team, or as a smaller sub

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team if you have them in yours, for example in your comms management team.

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And of course, you can have these conversations with individuals,

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remembering that people will want to engage with you in different ways.

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Some of the asks I've heard from my teams on occasions when we've been dealing with

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change are for really practical things to help us do our comms job effectively.

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For example, I've heard people ask for really clear key messaging.

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They've asked who's going to be signing the comms off and who's going to be

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fronting key meetings, for example.

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But many of the asks from team members have been about things like how will this

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change impact what I do going forward?

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What will be different for me?

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What will stay the same?

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And will our team have new priorities and how might that affect my job?

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It's natural for people to be anxious and to have these types of questions.

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Some of the team will see change as an opportunity to do things

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differently, maybe to try new ideas and be more innovative.

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While others will see change as a potential threat to the

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status quo and something that makes them feel uncomfortable.

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It's important to make the space and time to work through this with

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your team, especially given the role of comms in change management.

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It's also important, and I will say there's a caveat for this, and

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probably most of this conversation, that caveat being that I've made

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an assumption you're operating in a culture that's open and transparent

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and where people feel safe to share.

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But as I was saying, it's important that you are honest and upfront.

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If you don't know what the impacts of the change might be for your

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team, or you don't have clarity, then be honest about that.

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And commit to sharing what you can, as and when you're able to do so.

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I mean, these are all principles of good communications, I know.

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I do think there's a misconception, however, that when you work in comms, you

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know everything before anyone else does.

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And sadly, in my own experience, that is not always the case.

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Uh, perhaps I should even say that's not often the case.

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Of course there will be times when we have information, as we are

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part of the leadership team, that we're not at liberty to share.

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And that's okay.

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As long as we're being open and transparent about the things that

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we can share, listening to people's concerns, and finding ways to respond to

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them either individually or as a team.

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And of course, coming from a genuine place to really want to help people work

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through that change and uncertainty.

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Finally, I wanted to reflect on how change and uncertainty

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impacts on you individually.

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It's really easy for communications directors to feel the need to just

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get on with things, but my own experience has taught me it's important

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to create the time and to seek the support you need to process and work

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through those changes for yourself.

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As comms directors, we are often in the privileged position where we are

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trusted advisors to our leadership teams, confidants to other leaders in

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our organisations, sounding boards for people to test out ideas, and sometimes

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even a therapist, as well as, of course, being a professional communicator.

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While this signals that others trust us and we have built strong

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relationships, don't underestimate the toll that absorbing the emotions

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and feelings of others can take on you during times of stress and

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uncertainty in your organization.

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It's really important to carve out the time and space to reflect on

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how you feel about the changes.

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Ask yourself some of those same questions that you would ask others in your team.

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What impacts might the change have for you personally, are there

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opportunities, and equally are there things that you feel concerned about?

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Having a strong support network here is crucial.

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Whether that looks like a handful of trusted peers or colleagues, maybe some

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of your close friends, or perhaps more formal arrangements through a coach or

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a mentor, being able to talk through the impacts of change and how you might

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choose to manage it will really help you.

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At many points throughout my career as a comms leader, I've needed to sense

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check things, test out my thoughts, download some of my own stresses,

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and to create some head space to consider my next steps in working

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through change, both professionally and personally, as the comms lead for

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the organisation, as the leader for my team, and of course for myself.

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Having some hugely trusted people in my network to do that with, as well

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as my coach when I needed to, and my mentors, has genuinely helped me.

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Whether that has been reframing my thinking, checking on values

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alignment, or considering what impact I feel I can have as a leader,

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it's all been hugely beneficial.

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So I'll end this episode by saying, at those points when we face change and

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uncertainty, don't forget that people will be looking to you to provide

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that expert communications advice.

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Don't forget that people will also be looking to you as a leader to role model

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good behaviours and provide assurance and reassurance where you're able to.

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But most importantly, I would say at any time of change or uncertainty,

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don't forget to look after yourself.

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Thank you for listening to this episode of Behind the Bob.

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Catch up soon.

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About the Podcast

Behind the Bob
Diary of a Comms Director
Welcome to Behind the Bob, Diary of a Comms Director with me, Carrie-Ann Wade.

This podcast is all about developing communications leaders of the future and supporting you to grow and thrive in your comms career. You’ll hear from me about my experiences and insights and there might even be a special guest or two popping up.

Behind the Bob gives you a sneak peek into life as a comms director and provides you with all the "behind the scenes" knowledge to help you thrive as a communications leader.


About your host

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Carrie-Ann Wade

Carrie-Ann Wade is a communications director in the NHS with over 20 years of communications and marketing experience. She is also founder of Cat’s Pajamas Communications which focuses on mentoring communications professionals to grow and thrive in their careers.

She has most recently been a finalist in the inaugural Comms Hero Fearless Trailblazer award and shortlisted in the National Facilitation Awards 2023. She was named one of F:entrepreneur's #ialso100 2020 top female entrepreneurs and business leaders, and Cat’s Pajamas has been recognised in Small Business Saturday's UK #SmallBiz100, as a business with impact.

She is one part of the How to Take the Lead collaborative, and cohost of a podcast with the same name, exploring the challenges and opportunities of modern day leadership. Carrie-Ann also hosts ‘Behind The Bob, Diary of a Comms Director’, a podcast supporting aspiring communications leaders.

Find out more via www.cats-pajamas.co.uk